host: another view is that the tax on senator hagel are really a tax on president obama. john is joining us on the democrats' line from pennsylvania. are you with us? caller: i certainly am. my town is located outside of philadelphia. [indiscernible] it is close to philadelphia. thank you for permitting me to speak. thanks for c-span. this issue is fraught with a lot of anxiety. it is an explosive issue. this is bringing the lobby from behind the curtain. mr. clemons is a good spokesman for senator hagel's side. if he says the wrong thing, he could lose his position in the community. it is astonishing to me that people have been so wrong from day one. the people have been wrong. iraq is a disaster with trillions of dollars. afghanistan is a disaster. we do not know what is going on. in syria, the christians are terrified. chuck hagel is reasonable. what did he say that has so destructive -- disrupted it all? he said the jewish lobby intimidate people. to people knowledgeable and aware, this is not an issue. host: this is someone from the republican line. this is slowly an